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Friday, May 13, 2005
DS Anwar Ibrahim lost his 'persona' in front of the WORLD!
Wawancara DS Anwar Ibrahim dalam program temuramah politik di BBC, United Kingdom boleh ditonton menerusi siaran video internet di sini. Uncut and 'unedited'.
Satu wawancara selama 24 minit 51 saat. My verdict? The worst performance by any guests on HardTalk – sepanjang saya mengikuti racangan ini. Well, mungkin ada yang lebih teruk, tapi saya tak tertengok. Nasib baik penemuramahnya hanya si Stephen Sackur. Kalau kena dengan Jeremy Paxman yang lebih brutal, mungkin lagi teruk Anwar kena balun. As it's popularly known – Anwar has this reputation of a great idealist. Punyai karisma retorik yang unggul bila membahaskan isu-isu tentang idealisme. Tapi apa yang terpancar dalam wawancara ini – jauh panggang dari pemanggang (bukan lagi setakat jauh dari api!). The 'panggang' itself was not even on the 'pemanggang' – so, dah tentu api bukan saja jauh, tapi belum pun dinyalakan lagi. It was that bad! In fact, I think even the 'opening question', Anwar had clearly got it wrong. L
The entire session, Anwar was visibly uncomfortable and looked 'mentally' unprepared. His response to most questions (esp. in the beginning) was not that natural as if he couldn't 'feel' the issue. I was extremely surprised, how easy he got bullied by Stephen Sackur. Anwar was clearly put in the defensive side, all the time! Did Anwar make any research on how the interview would be conducted – prior to the show? Seemed that Anwar wasn't really ready to cope with Stephen's 'attacking' approach. Nampak macam terkejut pun ada. Anwar was not only struggling to answer factual questions (which we all know has always been his weakest part); he also did equally bad when it came to idealism issues (supposedly his strongest point!). Apa dah jadi? Adakah hukuman jel selama 6 tahun, yang memenjarakan fizikal Anwar, telah juga turut mengurung pertumbuhan minda? Atau barangkali – Anwar is still in a process of searching his long lost momentum (as if the so-called momentum ever exists)? He was definitely not the 'old' Anwar, the one that people used to see and adore.
(Nota-separuh-kaki: Anwar had never been my idol. I don't have anything against him – but his charisma just doesn't appeal to me. Be it during the pre-prison or the post-prison. Pun, bukan bermakna saya tidak menghormati beliau selaku pemimpin yang PERNAH menerajui wawasan negara. Of course, I have respect for DSAI - sebagaimana hormat saya pada semua pemimpin negara yang lain. History will always have its place in the history. Yes, one's circumstances may change; but we can neither change nor deny history. That's how I look at it. Alamak, berfalsampahlah pula!)

Anwar's body language was not as animated as usual – and obviously, not as convincing as it should be. I didn't expect him to be 'over acting' (macam zaman pre-penjara) – but, it would be nice to see him with some bold gestures, together with a more relaxed posture. Ini tidak, bahu sudahlah tegak macam bangku. Ketara sangat uptight gilak! Kurang pula gerak-tubuh yang garang dan menguja. The 'strong intimidating persona' he once had – was no longer there. Instead, he looked trying very hard to respond (to every question) in the most diplomatic manner that he could possibly do. Reaksinya kepada soalan-soalan maut begitu datar dan deskriptif. Adakalanya 'lembab'. Langsung tiada tikaman. Tak ada provokasi balik. Juga, tidak ada tampanan-tampanan bersifat paradoks – which Tun Dr. M was extremely good at. I really love Tun Dr. M's 'sharp & witty sarcasm'; and the way he turned every offensive question into his advantage. Lain halnya dengan Anwar. He simply and quite willingly allowed Mr. Sackur to dictate – not only the flow of the interview, but also the mood itself. Kalau para tetamu HardTalk sebelum ini dijadikan perbandingan relatif (whom mostly had a very strong character and presence – setakat yang saya tengok) – Anwar was nowhere to match them. Not really a pathetic performance for Malaysian standard – but it was, when benchmarked by international yardstick!

10 minit yang pertama (diskusi berkisar dengan gagasan semasa Anwar, iaitu pasca-penjara), saya tengok Anwar sebijik macam pokok lemon yang sedang bersembang dengan tukang kebun. Dia langsung tak beri kontras dan nilai ironi yang signifikan kepada soalan-soalan perangkap si Stephen. Menjawab sekadar menjawab. The best he could do was playing around with some unconvincing rhetoric. 10 minit berikutnya (soalan-soalan bersabit pelbagai isu pre-penjara), Anwar cuba bangkit dengan gaya yang lebih garang. Sadly, he was terribly failed in the attempt to defend his stand or express his idealism. Not only that he was struggling for words, but also for facts! Ini menjadikan Anwar semakin defensif – and this was the time when Stephen Sackur bombarded him with all sort of provoking and tricky questions. Bila dah makin kelam-kabut, barulah Anwar mula menabur fakta-fakta yang lebih empirik. Misalnya, menyebut beberapa statistik, 'nama' dan insiden spesifik. Kenapa masa awal-awal tu cuba nak mengelak sangat untuk sentuh perkara-perkara tersebut?
Sayang sekali, it was just too little, too late (as they usually put it). Anwar dah masuk gaung – and the final 5 minutes (diskusi berkait dengan korelasi dunia Anwar pada era pre-penjara dan pasca-penjara); it was very clear that Anwar was extremely desperate to rebuild his case and project his idealism in the most appealing manner. And yes, it was at this point that Anwar actually starting to present more and more specific examples – tapi sebab dah agak desperado, susunannya bertaburan tunggang terbalik. Apa lagi, Stephen Sackur pun ambilah kesempatan. He attacked Anwar very conveniently from every angle – and Anwar had to end the interview in the lowest note one could imagine. Pity, pity to Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim. Well, things happened, but yet.. life still needs to go on. So, saranan saya dari segi 'teknik orator' dan 'komunikasi' – silalah belajar dari pengalaman pahit ini...
Did Anwar give enough justice to himself with his appearance in the HardTalk (BBC) - as far as performance is concerned? In my personal opinion, a BIG NO. Could the interview play a significant factor in determining Anwar's future in Malaysia's politics? NO, I don't believe so. Does Anwar have a promising path in the Malaysian future politics? I don't know. Saya bukan Nujum Pak Belalang yang cuba mahu membaca masa depan Anwar dalam politik Malaysia. Saya hanya seorang blogger kerdil yang ingin diskusikan apa yang tersurat dan tersirat dalam temuramah yang dimaksudkan. Itu pun hanya menerusi kaca pandangan saya sendiri yang sudah tentunya amat terbatas…
Posted at 6:32 am by Rem
 |  |  | aN January 13, 2007 06:55 AM PST
hey..u guys must be kidding right.. i've watched the video and anwar didn't do that badly in the interview.. maybe, MAYBE he failed to deliver to the standard that he used to be, but I think he was doing just fine. if u put urself in his shoes at that moment, trying to handle all the toughest questions that could possibly bombarded by interviewers like sackur or paxman, and trying to keep on to your nerve, i don't think anyone of you, or some other prominent political figures in the world, could perform better than anwar. yes i agree anwar could have delivered much better than that, and that confirms the real charisma and the level of ability of the former deputy pm. i thought i've lost confidence on him, but after wathing the video, i know i can still put my hope and trust on him. Go Anwar! I truly hope 1 day you could carry out the long-awaited reforms and promises. |  |
  |  |  | mardhiah July 6, 2006 04:29 PM PDT
Oooh dia ada ke tempat saya. Memang dah pancit sebab tiada duit. Dia ni pendapat peribadi sayalah menganut falsafah hieraki Sir Abraham Maslow agaknya.
Sesuatu yang amat pelik bagi orang yang pakai imej Islam tapi menganut falsafah songsang dengan roh manusia dan kemanusiaan.
Therefore jadilah manusia itu setaraf "haiwan yang pandai berkata2". Bukan saya kata tapi cikgu sekolah Agama Negeri Johor cakap. Itulah ayat pemula bicara sebelum Al Mutaal Badrain dibaca bersama.
Pls take note:-
Cikgu Agama Johor malu nak angkat diri dengan gelaran Ustaz, sehingga disangka orang Johor sombong bodo. Tak Islamik.
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  |  |  | cik zam May 17, 2005 03:46 AM PDT
dlm talk tu..die nampak relaks sgt.. cam awak ckp awal² tu dia cam menjawab ala kadar... n bila stephen tanya pasal plan kat m;sia ke camne tah...dia ckp dia kena dicuss ngan team dia kat m'sia. pada saya patutnya dia tak leh la jawab camtu...sbb menunjukkan dia tak well prepare utk plan politik dia... kalo takde plan pun cover la ngan ayat lain... jawapan dia nampak cam byk hesitation ..tu yg lagik kantoi sampai stephen kadang² ptg ckp dia cam tak nak dengar futher explanation...
n mmg namapak ada 2 kali dia cam some sort like tarik nafas tinggi pastu lepas kan..cam ala² letih or give up
as for dr m..saya takde la suka dia.. tp as for the fact dia naikkan m'sia mmg saya tabik... ckp pasal dia..kalo dlm talk dia mmg releks.. pandai jawab ngan cool ngan bidas balik ngan sinis..tu mmg saya puji la.. |  |
  |  |  | Rem May 16, 2005 06:22 PM PDT
Aidid, yes agree with you on Dr. M. He was highly factual when debating an issue. Bukan takat buat homework, memang dia sangat faham dengan apa-apa isu yang dibawanya!
Yang jubah kembung macam kelambu tu, fesyen Siti yang terbaru. Tak faham apa nak jadi dengan gadis Kuala Lipis tu.
Tun Dr. M is a history. DSAI is still a mystery. He has these options:
(1) To leave his legacy in the history as it is.
OR
(2) To rewrite the history with a btter plot (but risking deleting the hisory all together - kalau silap langkah).
Terpulang pada DSAI, nak pilih jalan mana. Good luck anyway! |  |
  |  |  | Op May 16, 2005 06:04 PM PDT
semoga dia meneruskan kehidupan seperti biasa :) |  |
  |  |  | aidid5 May 16, 2005 10:19 AM PDT
errrr jubah kelambu yg kembung??? |  |
  |  |  | aidid5 May 16, 2005 10:06 AM PDT
saya masih kagum ngan Dr M.Beliau sgt lantang bila bersuara.But than, he did his homework.Sesapa saja yang interview beliau,beliau boleh saja menjawabnya. Kharisma yang sukar di dapati pada pemimpin yg lain.
Ada juga perbuatan beliau yg saya tidak setuju tapi yg pasti beliau telah mengenalkan nama negara kepada dunia.
Err ni ckp psl DSAI ek.Anyway,satu ketika dulu I have hopes for him(DSAI) but than, now I hv doubt. hmmmmm
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  |  |  | REM May 15, 2005 03:46 PM PDT
Cik Zam, I really couldn't help it. Pelik teramat. Bayangkan jubah kelambu yang kembung tu. Pelik sangat, kan? Dah lah jenis kain organza. Setau saya la kan.. material organza dan glossy ni.. hanya sesuai untuk evening event. Alamak.. keluar tajuklah pula kita ni. Tak apa... bukannya kena denda pun. Empunya blog kata ok, so.. ok-lah. :) |  |
  |  |  | cik zam May 15, 2005 11:55 AM PDT
*off topic sat...klaka la komen awak kat malique pasal baju siti tuh... siap ada correction n justification comment tuh...ihihhihihi...malas komen kat sane...ade org tu defensive giler..letih |  |
  |  |  | cik zam May 15, 2005 11:35 AM PDT
ermm..tumpang tanye...saya perasan kalo komen ony mesti ada ' '..quote unquote...ermm tu menandakan bahasa puisi ker?..tanya je out of curiosity :D |  |
  |  |  | REM May 15, 2005 01:29 AM PDT
Ambalut, otopot noh boh kopio borosnu. Atuk, osusah moti tesisku.. miagal dot amu avasi ti!!! :( Bah, ada juga budak-budak fanatik reformis datang menyerang gara-gara komen ini! |  |
  |  |  | Ony May 14, 2005 02:48 PM PDT
Tonini,'teruja' dgn isu ini.seronok 'menghayat'nya.Kita perlu berada diposisi yang kita 'yakini' suara batin yang 'terdalam' + bermakna.Sikap, melambangkan 'identiti'- saja 'usik'.
................ekai,tonini.
:))) ovio noh it 'tesisnu'.kano, langkasi muli! |  |
  |  |  | REM May 14, 2005 11:38 AM PDT
Thanks for all the comments posted.
Cik Zam, saya memang regular kat Jeff Ooi. Tapi sekarang dah malas nak komen. My first 2-3 comments dia tak keluarkan. So, I assume that he either dislikes my idea or my idea doesn't suit his blog. Tak apalah, it's a free world - and everyone is free to allow or to deny. No problem for me and I'm still a regular there. Banyak benda yang interesting.
Pink_Jambu, your quote read as, "saya tidak fikir begitu tapi kenyataan yg saudara nyatakan ini sedikit sebanyak menjatuhkan kredibeliti beliau di mata umum".
It's NOT a statement (kenyataan). It's a mere hypothetical question (i.e. a question asked out of interest, as the answer will have no effect on the situation). Saya dah letak tanda '?' dengan sejelas-jelasnya, kan? BTW, I can't stop anyone from being over-analytic and overseeing things more than what are grammatically and semantically presented. Everyone to his/her own way of analysing thing. I have no choice, but to respect your chosen way to perceive it. TQ.
And, on your point “menjatuhkan kredibiliti”: I believe that nobody can degrade anyone's credibility - but, himself or herself. I'm fully responsible for my own opinion - but I hold no control of how it may affect other's life or credibility per se. I believe that everyone should have a full control of his/her own life.
If someone decides that his/her credibility is being severely affected by any part of my personal opinion – then, that is obviously his/her own decision. WHAT can I do to stop him/her from doing so? Or rather, HOW can I help? I wish I could... |  |
  |  |  | pinkJambu May 14, 2005 08:09 AM PDT
6 tahun dipenjarakan adakah membuat minda dan pemikiran turut terpenjara? saya tidak fikir begitu tapi kenyataan yg saudara nyatakan ini sedikit sebanyak menjatuhkan kredibeliti beliau di mata umum. sadis. |  |
  |  |  | cik zam May 14, 2005 07:37 AM PDT
lupe nak tanye...rem dah masuk http://www.jeffooi.com ?..byk gak cite pasal nih..
*saya tak nampak rem post comment kat sane so saya assume rem tak masuk lagik...ihihih..kalau dah abaikan note nih :D * |  |
  |  |  | cik zam May 14, 2005 07:11 AM PDT
*tak pandai nak komen politik...tp tgh tunggu second part :D* |  |
  |  |  | azhad May 14, 2005 04:58 AM PDT
Saya pernah beberapa kali pergi ke rumah Anwar Ibrahim mendengar ceramah beliau selepas beliau dipecat dahulu.
Sememangnya ketika itu cara penyampaian beliau begitu bersemangat dan bertenaga. Saya belum lagi mendengar atau melihat beliau selepas dibebaskan.
Mungkin 6 tahun dipenjara juga telah mengongkong pemikiran beliau di samping mungkin ahli politik Malaysia masih belum sampai ke tahap untuk berdebat dengan baik. |  |
  |  |  | Malique May 14, 2005 04:33 AM PDT
hi Rem...
Just wanna say thanks for link my blog in here... i will link yours tooo...
keep it up!
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  |  |  | Zard May 13, 2005 09:12 PM PDT
What i can say though I only read in the Malaysian news. Sadly,he's still preserve the charismatic leader character & who unfortunately doesn't do anything with his knowledge deficiency. |  |
  |  |  | REM May 13, 2005 11:53 AM PDT
Anisah, couldn't agree more with all your points.
And, IF ONLY it was indeed Jeremy Paxman, trust me.. DSAI would have stood no chance to be there for more than 10 minutes! Kalau ada guest yang tergamam lebih dari 30 saat - the producer will instantly stop the interview. That is how it works!
At one point, DSAI actually dah tak reti nak jawab. Tapi, mujurlah si Stephen tu bertimbang-rasa. Dia umpan dengan 'leading and easy' question masa tu. |  |
  |  |  | Anisah May 13, 2005 11:37 AM PDT
Rem, sorry for the typos in the earlier post and do forgive my perfectionist tendency.
How I wished it was Jeremy Paxman who had interviewed him. I think Anwar's performance in HardTalk mirrors many (not all, thankfully) Malaysian politicians ability to debate issues in the manner of investigative journalism, especially a live telecast. Mahathir himself didn't do too well in a live al-Jazeera interview, albeit not as bad as Anwar just did.
The reason? Malaysian politicians are so used to Malaysian journalists who have their investigative nature curtailled by one Act or the other. It's like the Pavlov experiment, if you shut the cage door on a bird for too long, it won't fly out even if you leave the door open after that long period.
We rarely have live interviews. The so-called 'live' interviews we see/hear on Malaysian radio/TV actually have a 7-second delay (or is it 9-sec, the duration is not important, the concept is). That delay allows producers/editors to cut out such guffaws and politically incorrect statements. Plus, the politician would more often than not, know what questions are coming, because the interviewing journalist have gone over the questions and plausible answers with him/her.
How do I know the last fact? I am not a politician. However, in my humble existance, I have been interviewed on a RTM production, the topic being Bangsa Malaysia and problems in public universities' campuses. We went over the questions and they wanted to hear my answers before the talk show was filmed.
I'll end with a sligtly sceptical note. For most Malaysians, if you want to participate in non-Malaysian produced talk shows (non-celebrity types), do go in with a "Malaysian Tidak Boleh" attitude. So, when you emerge after the interview with your dignity (and reputation) more intact than Anwar, you can breath a sigh of relief. |  |
  |  |  | REM May 13, 2005 09:50 AM PDT
Ntahlah Fiza. Saya ni bukan pro- dan bukan anti-DSAI. Tapi serius.. saya SANGAT KECEWA dengan performance DSAI dalam HardTalk tu. Macam dia tak buat research. Banyak retorik bunga-bunga saja. Lepas tu, tak sharp pula.
Kalau tengok wakil-wakil dari Iran, Zimbabwe (yang teruk dibantai oleh UK - sampai presidennya dihalang dari datang Europe): diorang boleh berdebat dan bahaskan isu dengan lebih faktual, spesifik dan berwibawa. Gaya diorang melawan balik 'penemurah yang kurang ajar' tu pun garang.
Tapi DSAI ni kan.. alahai.. macam pokok lemon tunggu nak tumbang! Sepanjang temuramah asyik kena serang. Mujurlah penemuramah tu tak brutal sangat. |  |
  |  |  | Fiza May 13, 2005 09:07 AM PDT
selepas keluar dari penjara saya belum tengok/baca apa2 ttg DSAI.
tapi dia ada buat statement pasal 70% saham TV3 dipegang oleh Dr M which been deny by Dr M selepas tu dan TV3 juga buat statement deny kenyataan DSAI.
He have a long way to improve in order to be like he used to be.
DSAI pernah jadi idola politik dan waktu diminta balik saja (secara hormat) oleh Kak Wan (wan Azizah, kerana saya sudah menunggu sejam setengah bawah pokok mangga tepi rumahnya dan sejam di anjung dalam rumah utk interview yang saya tak dapat akhirnya) saya masih boleh senyum dan kata terima kasih Kak wan.
Tapi bila saya teliti satu persatu dan menghujah tiap satu kepercayaan dgn hakikat, saya tahu saya sudah banyak tersilap, tapi mungkin saya seorang saja :) |  |
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